[Linux] Quel navigateur choisir ? (was: Re: mozilla et les drm)

Sam 24 Mai 11:45:03 CEST 2014

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:47:59AM +0200, David Demelier wrote:
> 
> On 16/05/2014 10:34, Manu wrote:
> >Salut
> >Certains ont sûrement reçu ceci sur des listes fsf ou via la liste
> >april. Je transfère ici. Il s'agit de dénoncer les DRM chez
> >Mozilla (D'ailleurs, comme Steam, c'est mal... (message en passant
> >;) )
> >
> >From: Free Software Foundation
> >Date: 2014-05-15 21:11 GMT+02:00
> >Subject: Tell Mozilla: No DRM in Firefox
> >
> >We want to alert you to new developments that unfortunately require more
> >action. Yesterday, Mozilla announced that it is adopting DRM in its Firefox
> >web browser. Please read and share  our statement
> >condemning this decision, and write to Mozilla CTO Andreas
> >Galletting him know you oppose DRM.
> >
> >Thanks for all you do,
> >
> >John, Libby, William, and the rest of the DRM Elimination Crew
> >FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital
> >Restrictions Management
> >
> >In response to Mozilla's announcement that it is adopting DRM in its
> >Firefox Web browser, Free Software Foundation executive director John
> >Sullivan made the following statement:
> >
> >"Only a week after the International Day Against
> >DRM,
> >Mozilla has announced that it will partner with proprietary software
> >company Adobe to implement support for Web-based Digital Restrictions
> >Management(DRM)
> >in its Firefox browser, using Encrypted Media Extensions (EME).
> >
> >The Free Software Foundation is deeply disappointed in Mozilla's
> >announcement. The decision compromises important principles in order to
> >alleviate misguided fears about loss of browser marketshare. It allies
> >Mozilla with a company hostile to the free software movement and to
> >Mozilla's own fundamental ideals.
> >
> >Although Mozilla will not directly ship Adobe's proprietary DRM plugin, it
> >will, as an official feature, encourage Firefox users to install the plugin
> >from Adobe when presented with media that requests DRM. We agree with Cory
> >Doctorow that there is no meaningful distinction between 'installing DRM'
> >and 'installing code that installs DRM.'
> >
> >We recognize that Mozilla is doing this reluctantly, and we trust these
> >words coming from Mozilla much more than we do when they come from
> >Microsoft or Amazon. At the same time, nearly everyone who implements DRM
> >says they are forced to do it, and this lack of accountability is how the
> >practice sustains itself. Mozilla's announcement today unfortunately puts
> >it -- in this regard -- in the same category as its proprietary competitors.
> >
> >Unlike those proprietary competitors, Mozilla is going to great lengths to
> >reduce some of the specific harms of DRM by attempting to 'sandbox' the
> >plugin. But this approach cannot solve the fundamental ethical problems
> >with proprietary software, or the issues that inevitably arise when
> >proprietary software is
> >installedon a user's
> >computer.
> >
> >In the announcement,
> >Mitchell Baker asserts that Mozilla's hands were tied. But she then goes on
> >to actively praise Adobe's "value" and suggests that there is some kind of
> >necessary balance between DRM and user freedom.
> >
> >There is nothing necessary about DRM, and to hear Mozilla praising Adobe --
> >the company who has been and continues to be a vicious opponent of the free
> >software movement and the free Web -- is shocking. With this partnership in
> >place, we worry about Mozilla's ability and willingness to criticize
> >Adobe's practices going forward.
> >
> >We understand that Mozilla is afraid of losing users. Cory Doctorow points
> >outthat
> >they have produced no evidence to substantiate this fear or made any
> >effort to study the situation. More importantly, popularity is not an end
> >in itself. This is especially true for the Mozilla Foundation, a nonprofit
> >with an ethical mission. In the past, Mozilla has distinguished itself and
> >achieved success by protecting the freedom of its users and explaining the
> >importance of that freedom: including publishing Firefox's source code,
> >allowing others to make modifications to it, and sticking to Web standards
> >in the face of attempts to impose proprietary extensions.
> >
> >Today's decision turns that calculus on its head, devoting Mozilla
> >resources to delivering users to Adobe and hostile media distributors. In
> >the process, Firefox is losing the identity which set it apart from its
> >proprietary competitors -- Internet Explorer and Chrome -- both of which
> >are implementing EME in an even worse fashion.
> >
> >Undoubtedly, some number of users just want restricted media like Netflix
> >to work in Firefox, and they will be upset if it doesn't. This is
> >unsurprising, since the majority of the world is not yet familiar with the
> >ethical issues surrounding proprietary software. This debate was, and is, a
> >high-profile opportunity to introduce these concepts to users and ask them
> >to stand together in some tough decisions.
> >
> >To see Mozilla compromise without making any public effort to rally users
> >against this supposed "forced choice" is doubly disappointing. They should
> >reverse this decision. But whether they do or do not, we call on them to
> >join us by devoting as many of their extensive resources to permanently
> >eliminating DRM as they are now devoting to supporting it. The FSF will
> >have more to say and do on this in the coming days. For now, users who are
> >concerned about this issue should:
> >
> >-
> >
> >*Write to Mozilla CTO Andreas Gal and let him know that you oppose DRM
> >*. Mozilla made this decision in a misguided appeal to
> >its userbase; it needs to hear in clear and reasoned terms from the users
> >who feel this as a betrayal. Ask Mozilla what it is going to do to actually
> >solve the DRM problem that has created this false forced choice.
> >-
> >
> >*Join our effort to stop EME approval
> >  at the W3C*. While
> >today's announcement makes it even more obvious that W3C rejection of EME
> >will not stop its implementation, it also makes it clear that W3C can
> >fearlessly reject EME to send a message that DRM is*not*  a part of the
> >vision of a free Web.
> >-
> >
> >*Use a version of Firefox without the EME code*: Since its source code
> >is available under a license allowing anyone to modify and redistribute it
> >under a different name, we expect versions without EME to be made
> >available, and you should use those instead. We will list them in the Free
> >Software Directory .
> >-
> >
> >*Donate to support the work of the Free Software Foundation
> >  and our Defective by Design
> >campaign to actually end DRM.* Until it's completely gone, Mozilla and
> >others will be constantly tempted to capitulate, and users will be
> >pressured to continue using some proprietary software. If not us, give to
> >another group fighting against digital restrictions."
> >
> >References
> >
> >- What is DRM?
> >-
> >https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/
> >-
> >https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-mission-and-w3c-eme/
> >-https://defectivebydesign.org/dbd-condemns-drm-in-html
> >-https://fsf.org/news/coalition-against-drm-in-html
> >-https://defectivebydesign.org/oscar-awarded-w3c-in-the-hollyweb
> >
> 
> Bon et moi je souhaite changer de navigateur car c'est la deuxième
> fois que Firefox me déçoit. D'abord les pubs dans les tuiles et
> maintenant cette décision.
> 
> Quel navigateur avez vous à proposer comme alternative ? Par
> ailleurs tant qu'à faire, une alternative pour thunderbird si vous
> avez une idée aussi (qui lit le HTML).
> 
> David.

Sous Debian : Iceweasel, Icedove
(ceux sont des forks de Firefox et Thunderbird et cela m'étonnerai que Debian intègre les DRM dans Iceweasel)

Sous Linux :
- GNU IceCat (idem, fork de Firefox, idem je vois mal le projet GNU intégrer quoique ce soit de louche) https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/
- Abrowser http://abrowser.sourceforge.net
- w3m apt-get install w3m (A utiliser sans modération)

Ce sont les navigateurs que j'utilise..

Pour les mails :
Au boulot : Icedove (Debian)
@home : mutt (Debian)

Enjoy!

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